RAW 9: Color Differences between 9 and 8
No, there is meant to be no color difference between versions 8 and 9 of our processing.
But when I render X-T5 RAF file using RAW 9, the colors are more saturated then RAW 8.
The variable is the CIContext's workingColorSpace in my own experience. That might be why this reproduces for some people and not others.
Same file, same process, mean R/G/B over a 400×400 centre crop, output color space sRGB throughout. Fujifilm X-T5, DSCF0021.RAF:
| linear sRGB | 78.7 / 46.7 / 44.9 | 79.6 / 47.2 / 44.7 |
| sRGB | 78.7 / 46.8 / 44.9 | 253.3 / 185.4 / 214.0 |
| Display P3 | 78.8 / 46.8 / 44.9 | 252.1 / 187.6 / 214.9 |
| extended linear sRGB | 78.7 / 46.7 / 44.9 | 79.6 / 47.2 / 44.7 |
| extended linear Display P3 | 78.7 / 46.7 / 44.9 | 71.1 / 50.6 / 40.6 |
Version 8 varies by at most 0.1 code value across every managed working color space. Version 9 varies by a factor of 3.2. On a Canon EOS 5D Mark III the same comparison is starker: version 8 reads 158.6 / 119.4 / 77.8 in every working space, version 9 reads 158.3 / 120.2 / 76.9 in linear sRGB and 254.9 / 253.8 / 255.0 — very nearly pure white — in both sRGB and Display P3.
In short:
- gamma-encoded working space (
sRGB,displayP3) → grossly lifted, largely clipped - sRGB-primaried linear (
linearSRGB,extendedLinearSRGB) → tracks version 8 to about 1% - the output color space does not decide it — both output spaces show the same pattern
.version9DNGbehaves the same way on a DNG of the same scene, while8.dngis byte-identical across all five managed working spaces- versions 6–8 are insensitive to working color space entirely
CIImage.colorSpacereportskCGColorSpaceDisplayP3under every version including 9, so the output is not carrying an unusual tag
One thing worth flagging, because "just use a linear space" has a wrong answer in it: extendedLinearDisplayP3 is linear, so it avoids the gross failure, but version 9 still departs from version 8 there by −5.0% / +6.3% / −40.7% (R/G/B) on the Canon rendered to sRGB. Only
sRGB-primaried linear spaces track version 8. So version 9 is sensitive to primaries as well as transfer, and version 8 to neither.
Nik — if your working space is linear you would not see this at all, which may be why the reports never reproduced for you. Kuro's saturation observation on the X-T5 is consistent with a gamma-encoded working space; the effect is much larger than "more saturated" suggests once you measure it.
Reproduced on 26A5406e and 26A5416b, identical to the last printed digit on both, across three files (X-T5 RAF, X-T5 DNG, Canon CR2), two vendors, two CFA geometries, and both the plain and .dng decoder ladders.
Filed as FB24435750 with a self-contained minimal reproduction that prints its own control and reports the effective decoder version on every row, plus a CC0 sample file.