Photos on 6s with limited space. ACK.

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hosshead OP

Created Jan ’16

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Okay, FIRST let me tell you;

I am new to owning an iPhone, but have been in the Pad since early version 1, particiating in the Betas since then.

Before I submit an enhancement request about iOS9.3,(and beyond), I want to ask persons more familiar with how Photos and iCloud and storeage work.

And I think my question is germain to many people's situation with their phones.

How do we create a ONE WAY photo storeage?

So that, whenever I take a photo with my iphone 6s, with only a measly 16G storeage,(= 11 available, now down to 3 even after turning off and deleting a BUNCH of Photos), I don't immediately start reloading my Library back onto my phone?

And, what's with, whenever I thin them from my phone, it means deleting the images EVERYWHERE, so that images I might want to casually share from my phone, but don't LIVE ON IT, have to be gone forever?

Is there a way to have a ONE WAY TO the Cloud? Why dont I find my Photos on my iCloud Drive, when I have bought additional iCloud space? They should be living there, easy to pickup, and then put back, right?

Am I just not knowing how to do that? Is that's the case, can some patient soul step me through it?

I am an art photographer who is a simpleton about building software.

You might say, "Well, why are you participating in Beta, then?"

Because I think that REAL PEOPLE in REAL WORLD situations should help build the stuff we use, and that REAL DEVELOPERS benefit from folks like meusing the Betas, having problems, bringing them here so Developers can tweek things.

Makes me SORT OF a Developer too.

In any case, before submitting a request for a better flow/storeage management, so that people who can only afford a DINKY 16G iPhone 6s,(which I bought for it's superior photo potentials over a wobbly iPad), have a way to really use their iPhone cameras without harbouring the entire 1TB image Library on the phone, I wanted to come and ask for a way to do that, from people who KNOW....

and if it's still quite a struggle, then submit a request for a better way.

Like, a switch on settings that says "Photos Store in Cloud, only download back to iPhone MANUALLY."

and deleting images from the phone doesn't result in DELETION EVERYWHERE.

Thank you for your tolerance.

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Answer 1

Max108 OP

Jan ’16

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Hi Hoss! 😀

Happy new year! I've only got 5 mins for a simplistic copy/paste type answer to your question at the moment (things are crazy busy for me atm):

From: https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-delete-photos-from-my-iPhone-but-keep-them-in-iCloud

The first thing to keep in mind is that iCloud Photo Library, by default, stores original, full-resolution versions in iCloud, but doesn't necessarily do so on your iOS device. This is dependent on the "Optimize iPhone Storage" setting found under Settings, Photos & Camera or Settings, iCloud, Photos. When this option is selected, most of the photos that are kept in local storage on your iPhone will be thumbnails or scaled-down versions appropriate for viewing on your iPhone screen. When you open a photo to view it, a higher-resolution version is downloaded from iCloud, however the original full-resolution version isn't re-downloaded again unless you choose to edit it in the Photos app, or unless you access it from some third-party app that wants to request the original photo for posting or editing purposes.

And from https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT204264

Can I use iCloud Photo Library to save space on my device? iCloud Photo Library automatically keeps all your photos and videos in the original, high-resolution version. Follow these steps to choose how you store your photos and videos on your device:
On your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch, tap Settings > iCloud > Photos or Settings > Photos & Camera, then select a storage setting.
On your Mac, click Photos > Preferences > iCloud, then select a storage setting.
If you turn on Optimize [device] Storage, iCloud Photo Library will automatically manage the size of your library on your device, so you can make the most of your device's storage and access more photos than ever. All of your original, full-resolution photos and videos are stored in iCloud while device-size versions are kept on your device. You can download the original photos and videos over Wi-Fi or cellular when you need them.
If you turn on Download Originals, iCloud Photo Library will keep your original, full-resolution photos and videos in iCloud and on your device. Download Originals is the default setting for iOS devices with the free 5 GB storage plan and for all Mac devices.

-Max

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Answer 2

hosshead OP

Jan ’16

Hey There Max!

Thanks for the help, as always!

Things are busy over here too.

You are correct. They need to give us more control over content and how we store images and WHERE we put them.

I see no reason to have a Cloud storeage if it's not easy for me to keep everything,except what I want, off my devices.

I finally got an iPhone 6s....mostly for the camera it offers in a mobile device, but it's a measly 16G, as I can't afford buying one with larger Gig-ness.

I NEED to be able to, rather instantly, store images and vids in the Cloud.

So there needs to be a simple switch that says,"Put all images in the Cloud and not on my phone unless I say so", available for me to turn on. Apple is supposed to be easy that way.

So, what I need to do re' enhancement requesting is to ask for a way to remove photos frm my device without deleting them just everywhere else.

I think it's more about letting different devices act as such. I don't think they all must have EXACTLY the same content on them all the time.

I also, yesterday, put in an enhancement request that allows us to dump useless apps that Apple INSISTS we all have.

Like Stocks.

I don't have stocks of any kind. I don't watch the market. I don't want that App.

Same for Apple's Weather app. I have, like, TWENTY, that are superior to Apple's Weather app. I should get to dump that one too. I don't see how those are integral to the iOS function so we MUST keep them.

This is why people **** break things.....😕

Well, hope you are well, Max. Once again, you are my Hero.

Keeping them Turkish hackers at bay..... 😉

Happy 2016! 🙂

oh, P.S.

Do you think they will improve the iPad Pro, add 3d touch to it? I would have thought that,(3d touch being on there), was a given! But....NOOOOO. I think I am now holding out for that, before I buy one.

Not so worried it doesn't have the better camera, as it's just too big to be a decent mobile camera anyway....shoot, any breeze would cause it to whip about like a road sign in a hurricane, LOL! But 3d Touch? Oh yeah.

*edited, like, 20 times, for typos.

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Answer 3

hosshead OP

Jan ’16

continuum......

so, we need the iOS to predicate in favour of "Store Off Device" as the first option, "Store On Device" as the second. It seems that it's the other way round right now.

Maybe a simple pair of sliders that that allow us to order the priorities for the device, yeah?

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Answer 4

Max108 OP

Jan ’16

So currently there are two options:

Default - Store all photos at full size on both iDevice and iCloud. This seems like it might suit someone with a 64 or 128GB device without an incredibly large photo/video library and/or who wants to avoid the possibility of mobile data being used for downloading the full-size version of media back to the iDevice.
A middle of the road option that stores reduced/thumbnail versions of the media on the iDevice and downloads the full-size version when the photo/video is opened for viewing or editing. This seems suitable for people with 32 or 64GB devices or even a 16GB device if they have very few photos. This allows the quick and easy browsing of the users entire library (in thumbnail form at least) from the device, even when no internet connection is available. A bit mobile data will be used in downloading the full sized versions when away from wifi.

I agree with you that, at the very least, option 2 should be the default because I would confidently guesstimate that it is suitable for more users than option 1 as things stand and because, more often than not, users are unaware that they have even the choice of these two options.

I also agree that a third option is needed where not even the thumbnails of pictures/videos are stored on the iDevice (apart from specific ones that the user ticks as "keep on device", with a slider that is defaulted to off like you mentioned). Much of the library would be completely unavailable when away from an internet connection, and mobile data would be consumed when browsing even thumbnails of the iCloud-only media when away from wifi, but it would still be the preferred option for many with 16GB iDevices, yourself included.

If Apple listen to you and implement such a third option, the second option would still probably make the best default, and it would be good if the Photos app could make the user clearly aware of the 3 options during the initial setup, and again at certain points of memory consumption (e.g. 10GB left on device, 5GB left, 2GB left, or something similar).

As for the option to remove certain Apps that are bundled with iOS, but are not integral to it, this enhancement request has been made by many users over many years. So much so that Tim Cook even made special reference to it in an interview recently (http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/15/tim-cook-interview-siri-iphone-6s-default-apps/). He made positive noises at least.

As for 3D touch on the iPad Pro, the first gen probably just missed the 3D touch boat because it was only released a couple of after the hardware was debuted on the 6s - perhaps not enough time to scale it up for the Pro. That would suggest that a second gen model of the Pro might have it but, against that, there is also the possibility that it would add too much to the weight of the Pro (which some already complain is quite a lot for a handheld device) when scaled up over the much greater area. In that case it may not be until the 3rd gen or so that they can refine the tech such that they feel happy to include it. I certainly agree that iDevices don't get much more "premium" than the Pro and, on that basis, it shouldn't be denied "premium" features like 3d touch without very good reason.

I hope that cover's all the bases 🙂.

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