High Sierra Unbearably Slow

I'm curious what MacBook Pro you are using specifically. While High Sierra has not made my Mac slow, it has made it unbearably HOT and the fans run all the time. I have a late 2011 15" MBP and on my machine automatic graphics switching constantly uses the descreet card and never falls back to integrated graphics, making the battery life last about 45 minutes, fans run constantly, and it is HOT. I had a similar issue with the early Sierra betas so i'm not concerned - it will get fixed. It's just annoying for now.

i have an early 2011 macbook pro

When i restart my MacBook, i get the message “You have restarted your computer because of a problem.” So even the computer can detect something is wrong. Could it be an application that isn’t compatible?

For the crash saying "You have restarted your computer because of a problem." I've to disconnect everything possible from my MBP. After reconnected all devices step by step I could identify an USB device that has a "not so Mac-like software". For now I keep the device disconnected.

My MacBook Pro is also really slow. It's because of the trustd process that keeps running on high CPU usage. After a lot of patience and some hours of waiting the CPU usage becomes lower and the mdworker process comes up. I guess it's because of the APFS migration and I hope it'll finish one day.

Hi! I have the same macbook model!

I am curios about your configuration.

As I know your Macbook Pro late 2011 ( 15'' ) is not compatible with Metal technology.
And here we go:

macOS 10.13 High Sierra uses Window Server on top of Metal 2.

Do you see a contradiction?

macOS uses Metal 2 under the hood of Window Server.
So, old macs COULD have big troubles with it.

I will be glad if somebody show information which falsify my contradiction.

trustd has been using the majority of my CPU also. haven’t had any luck with it

Try signing out of iCloud, restart and then sign in again.

After about 30 minutes of slowness, i did as you said and nothing seemed to change. trustd and spindump are still using a huge amount of CPU

I have an iMac 2011 with an SSD inside on which I ran the High Sierra update: here everything works out pretty fine. But my MacBookPro, which is Mid 2012 15" got a fresh new installation and just does not work. It is not slow, it just does nothing really. After a minimum of 30min. waiting to reach the "Shutdown" option in the menu bar, the MBP was not able to shutdown and it showed me a really strange screen. Nontheless I suppose that I has not only but also to do with the hard drive which is an old HDD. I am currently loading the actual Sierra OS with which I was quite satisfied.

Hope this will be fixed otherwise I might either stay with the old Sierra or got to get myself a new MBP

Spotlight will often cause a high CPU rate after an upgrade.

well it’s been over a day so i think there’s a bigger issue

I have a late 2011 MBP running High Sierra. Under Sierra on idle, I had 1.3GB ram free on a 4GB ram system. Under High Sierra, I only have 400MB ram free on idle.
Also, Safari hogs ram and CPU like no tomorrow. So much for it being the most efficient browser :/

I definately think that High Sierra is a performance downgrade, at least on this older hardware.

I'm seeing the same issue, but the strange thing is that my CPU is not running high. High Sierra is still very slow. Especially with web browsers it seems. I'm working on a MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015) with an i7 and 16GB RAM, so... I think it has to be a flaw in Sierra. I guess that is why it's a BETA. 😟 It's just very annoying in the mean time.

I've been wondering about this myself. I have a late 2011 15" MBP. It indeed runs High Sierra (quite well actually, except the no sleep/wake and constant dedicated graphics card issue). I know my machine did not support Metal 1 graphics, and I assume it does not support Metal 2 graphics, yet, there it is, running High Sierra, which allegedly uses Metal 2 for the WindowServer. Only explaination I see is that the WindowServer is still able to fall back to the previous (OpenGL?) rendering on unspported machines? If my suspician is true, I'd also suspect that this will be the last release to do so and 10.14 will drop support for all non-Metal supported machines.

Same issue here with constantly running dedicated graphics on a 2011 15" MBP. In the ealier Sierra betas there was a similar issue, but it was more that certain apps caused the dedicated card to kick in when they shouldn't have (false dependencies). I was able to identify these and resolve them one way or another. The system itself still would fall back if NO other apps were running. Under High Sierra, I can't get the machine to fall back to the integrated card no matter what. No dependecies listed in Activity Monitor. The dedicated card is still used in Safe Boot and in Recovery mode. I even, just for kicks, removed all of the AMD graphics kexts. Even then, the system will boot using the dedicated card, essentially in VGA mode. IMO this appears to be firmware, not software causing it to not work. I have not tried booting into Sierra to see if Sierra still functions properly. High Sierra did in fact install and EFI update on my machine (though I assumed it simply added APFS booting capability).

I have an Early-2011 MBP and High Sierra runs horrendously bad on it. It takes forever to load anything and the memory usage is off the scale. I don't have an SSD and still have 4GB RAM (I don't do anything taxing on it). Sierra runs perfectly fine.

My 2012 MBP retina (10,1), 16GB RAM, 250GB Apple SSD, fresh install, APFS running - was very, very slow. I disconnected my 4k monitor and it sped right back up. It's usable now. The monitor was connected on the HDMI port if that helps. CPU is not running all the time. I use iStat Menus for additional information and it was reading very high temps everywhere but the fans weren't on. Then it dawned on me that it was reporting in °F not °C. Now it's running cool. Doh!

Time Machine isn't working so well though, the boot drive is listed in the exclusion list, is greyed out and I can't remove it from the list. Already tried removing the appropriate file, no dice. Is this because it's APFS and the backup drive is on a network server (Mac Pro) running Sierra and HFS? I wouldn't think it would matter...

If you'd read the release notes for beta 2 update 1, you'd have noticed that they disabled Time Machine for beta 2 update 1 root volumes, due to an issue with APFS volume snapshots not freeing up used space.

MacBookPro8,2 here.

> early 2011 macbook pro

Hard disk drive, solid state or hybrid?

APFS?

> … “You have restarted your computer because of a problem.” …

Kernel panic. If you set this boot argument in NVRAM:

keepsyms=y

– then restart the Mac, then the next .panic file will be more informative.

The best OSX is 10.9.5, fast, stable, ...

APFS don't have support for NTFS native Write, Why Apple?

Your Mac open more 100 connections with website only you log on High Siera Beta 2, it's very bad.

I have the NEW Macbook Pro (almost switched back to my 2013 MBP) and the new beta drains the battery of course but my main concern is the lagging and spinning.. Is Apple turning into Windows? That was the sole reason I switched.....it just worked ....great.. dont screw it up Apple!

Just updated today and it is super slow

OS macOS High sierra version 10.13

macBook Pro

processor 2.7 GHZ core i7

memory 8GB 1333MHZ DDR3

Graphics intel HD graphics 3000 512MB

10.13.1 beta (by accident) Mid 2012 MacBook Pro 16g ram SSD Unbelievably slow. :(

Hey, I don't know if you have solved the issue yet since it has been a while from your latest post but I have just stumbled on it. I have a Mid 2012 MBPr 15" with NVIDIA graphics and after reading your post I discovered that something was keeping the NVIDIA graphics card to not fall back to Intel graphics. A quick look around the activity monitor showed me that under Finder process there is quicklookuiservice that uses the discrete graphics. After killing it things went back to normal. Although it doesn't always switch to that sate and activity monitor reports that it doesn't even requires high perf gpu. Before your post I didn't even realize that the discrete graphics are on. So I must thank you. Something that I've also noticed is that avconferenced process after a facetime call doesn't get killed and hogs the cpu. I'm on 10.13 BTW. I hope these will be resolved with 10.13.1.

Same annoying issue here.

MacOS 10.13.1

MacBook Pro (Retina, 15", late 2013)

2,3 GHz Intel Core i7

16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2 GB

Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB

The update to 10.13.1 hasn’t resolved the issue, yet.