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Optimizing HZB Mip-Chain Generation and Bindless Argument Tables in a Custom Metal Engine
Hi everyone, I’ve been developing a custom, end-to-end 3D rendering engine called Crescent from scratch using C++20 and Metal-cpp (targeting macOS and visionOS). My primary goal is to build a zero-bottleneck, GPU-driven pipeline that maximizes the potential of Apple Silicon’s Unified Memory and TBDR architecture. While the fundamental systems are stable, I am looking for architectural feedback from Metal framework engineers regarding specific synchronization and latency challenges. Current Core Implementations: GPU-Driven Instance Culling: High-performance occlusion culling using a Hierarchical Z-Buffer (HZB) approach via Compute Shaders. Clustered Forward Shading: Support for high-count dynamic lights through view-space clustering. Temporal Stability: Custom TAA with history rejection and Motion Blur resolve. Asset Infrastructure: Robust GUID-based scene serialization and a JSON-driven ECS hierarchy. The Architectural Challenge: I am currently seeing slight synchronization overhead when generating the HZB mip-chain. On Apple Silicon, I am evaluating the cost of encoder transitions versus cache-friendly barriers. && m_hzbInitPipeline && m_hzbDownsamplePipeline && !m_hzbMipViews.empty(); if (canBuildHzb) { MTL::ComputeCommandEncoder* hzbInit = commandBuffer->computeCommandEncoder(); hzbInit->setComputePipelineState(m_hzbInitPipeline); hzbInit->setTexture(m_depthTexture, 0); hzbInit->setTexture(m_hzbMipViews[0], 1); if (m_pointClampSampler) { hzbInit->setSamplerState(m_pointClampSampler, 0); } else if (m_linearClampSampler) { hzbInit->setSamplerState(m_linearClampSampler, 0); } const uint32_t hzbWidth = m_hzbMipViews[0]->width(); const uint32_t hzbHeight = m_hzbMipViews[0]->height(); const uint32_t threads = 8; MTL::Size tgSize = MTL::Size(threads, threads, 1); MTL::Size gridSize = MTL::Size((hzbWidth + threads - 1) / threads * threads, (hzbHeight + threads - 1) / threads * threads, 1); hzbInit->dispatchThreads(gridSize, tgSize); hzbInit->endEncoding(); for (size_t mip = 1; mip < m_hzbMipViews.size(); ++mip) { MTL::Texture* src = m_hzbMipViews[mip - 1]; MTL::Texture* dst = m_hzbMipViews[mip]; if (!src || !dst) { continue; } MTL::ComputeCommandEncoder* downEncoder = commandBuffer->computeCommandEncoder(); downEncoder->setComputePipelineState(m_hzbDownsamplePipeline); downEncoder->setTexture(src, 0); downEncoder->setTexture(dst, 1); const uint32_t mipWidth = dst->width(); const uint32_t mipHeight = dst->height(); MTL::Size downGrid = MTL::Size((mipWidth + threads - 1) / threads * threads, (mipHeight + threads - 1) / threads * threads, 1); downEncoder->dispatchThreads(downGrid, tgSize); downEncoder->endEncoding(); } if (m_instanceCullHzbPipeline) { dispatchInstanceCulling(m_instanceCullHzbPipeline, true); } } My Questions: Encoder Synchronization: Would you recommend moving this loop into a single ComputeCommandEncoder using MTLBarrier between dispatches to maintain L2 cache residency, or is the overhead of separate encoders negligible for depth-downsampling on TBDR? visionOS Bindless Latency: For stereo rendering on visionOS, what are the best practices for managing MTL4ArgumentTable updates at 90Hz+? I want to ensure that updating bindless resources for each eye doesn't introduce unnecessary CPU-to-GPU latency. Memory Management: Are there specific hints for Memoryless textures that could be applied to intermediate HZB levels to save bandwidth during this process? I’ve attached a screenshot of a scene rendered with the engine (PBR, SSR, and IBL).
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Open Shading Language (OSL) in Metal
Hi. I'm a 3D designer, using Blender for most of my work. The most recent Blender conference discussed utilizing the Open Shading Language (OSL) in their latest versions, which allows designers to write custom shaders for their workflows. At the moment, only Nvidia Optix GPU's can utilize this language for rendering (from what I understand), but Blender developers stated they are waiting on other GPU manufacturers to implement this feature as well. I'm not sure if there are any licensing issues here, but would this be something Apple could implement in Metal to make their hardware more attractive to the 3D design community? Any help or knowledge on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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The description of set_indices in the MSL reference seems incorrect.
I'm currently learning Metal. While reading the reference, I came across a strange description. Page 78 in Version 4 Reference (2025-10-25) says: It is legal to call the following set_indices functions to set the indices if the position in the index buffer is valid and if the position in the index buffer is a multiple of 2 (uchar2 overload) or 2 (uchar4 overload). The index I needs to be in the range [0, max_indices). void set_indices(uint I, uchar2 v); void set_indices(uint I, uchar4 v); However, it seems that the uchar4 overload should be multiple of 4. Furthermore, there is no explanation of what these methods actually do. I believe it involves setting two to four consecutive indices at once, but there is no mention of that here. I would like to know if the above understanding is correct.
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Xcode Metal Capture crash when using MTLSamplerState
The sample code just draw a triangle and sample texture. both sample code can draw a correct triangle and sample texture as expected. there are no error message from terminal. Sample code using constexpr Sampler can capture and replay well. Sample code using a argumentTable to bind a MTLSamplerState was crashed when using Metal capture and replay on Xcode. Here are sample codes. Sample Code Test Environment: M1 Pro MacOS 26.3 (25D125) Xcode Version 26.2 (17C52) Feedback ID: FB22031701
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Using Metal compute for scientific simulation (lattice QCD gauge theory)
I've been using Metal compute shaders for lattice quantum chromodynamics simulations and wanted to share the experience in case others are doing scientific computing on Metal. The workload involves SU(2) matrix operations on 4D lattice grids — lots of 2x2 and 3x3 complex matrix multiplies, reductions over lattice sites, and nearest-neighbor stencil operations. The implementation bridges a C++ scientific framework (Grid) to Metal via Objective-C++ .mm files, with MSL kernels compiled into .metallib archives during the build. Things that work well: Shared memory on M-series eliminates the CPU↔GPU copy overhead that dominates in CUDA workflows The .metallib compilation integrates cleanly with autotools builds using xcrun Float4 packing for SU(2) matrices maps naturally to MSL vector types Things I'm still figuring out: Optimal threadgroup sizes for stencil operations on 4D grids Whether to use MTLHeap for gauge field storage or stick with individual buffers Best practices for double precision — some measurements need float64 but Metal's double support varies by hardware The application is measuring chromofield flux distributions between static quarks, ultimately targeting multi-quark systems. Production runs are on MacBook Pro M-series and Mac Studio. Code: https://github.com/ThinkOffApp/multiquark-lattice-qcd
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Can a compute pipeline be as efficient as a render pipeline for rasterization?
I'm new to graphics and game design and I just wanted to know if a compute pipeline could be as efficient as a render pipeline for rasterization and an explanation on how and why. Also is it possible to manually perform rasterization with a render pipeline as in manipulate individual pixel data in a metal texture yourself but do it with a render pipeline?
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Can I use metal shader if I use RealityKit to build a VisionOS app?
I asked AI to build a realistic ocean shader for a VisionOS project using RealityKit. It gave a bunch instructions and asked me to connect large amount of nodes for the ShaderGraph in the Reality Composer Pro. I am just wondering if AI can help to generate the Metal shader code directly, or build the ShaderGraph nodes for me automatically.
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GPTK 3 and D3DMetal issue with Modern Pipeline Creation
Death Stranding 2: On the Beach (v1.0.48.0, Steam) crashes during rendering initialization when running through CrossOver 26 with D3DMetal 3.0 on an Apple M2 Max Mac Studio running macOS Sequoia. The game successfully initializes Streamline, NVAPI, DLSS (Result::eOk), DLSSG (Result::eOk), Reflex, and XeSS — all subsystems report success. The crash occurs immediately after, during rendering pipeline creation, before the game reaches NXStorage initialization or window creation. Minidump analysis confirms the crash is an access violation (0xc0000005) at DS2.exe+0x67233d, writing to address 0x0. RAX=0x0 (null pointer being dereferenced), R12=0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF (error/invalid handle return). The game appears to call a D3D12 API — likely CheckFeatureSupport or a pipeline state creation function — that D3DMetal acknowledges as supported but returns null or invalid data for. The game trusts the response and dereferences the null pointer. Two other Nixxes titles using the same engine and D3DMetal setup run without issue: Spider-Man 2 (~50 FPS) and Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered (~34 FPS). DS2 uses newer technology versions (DLSS 4, FSR 4, XeSS 2) and a newer DirectX 12 Agility SDK, which likely queries D3D12 features that D3DMetal does not yet fully implement. The crash also reproduces when D3DMetal reports as AMD vendor (1002) instead of NVIDIA (10de), crashing at the same executable offset, confirming it is a D3D12 feature reporting gap in D3DMetal rather than a vendor-specific issue. How To Reproduce Install Crossover 26+ on MacOS 26.4 Install Steam and download Death Stranding 2 Run Death Stranding 2 and check logs after crash in Documents\DEATH STRANDING 2 ON THE BEACH Feedback Requests FB22285513 — Game Porting Toolkit 3 issue with Modern Pipeline Creation
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Xcode26 Replay frame broken
Got a broken frame when using Xcode to capture a frame and replay it from a Unity game. It seems like the vertex buffer is broken; I see a bunch of "nan"s in the vertex buffer. However, the game displays correct when running, and it only happend when I upgrade my Xcode and iphone to Xcode26 and IOS26 ios26
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Optimizing HZB Mip-Chain Generation and Bindless Argument Tables in a Custom Metal Engine
Hi everyone, I’ve been developing a custom, end-to-end 3D rendering engine called Crescent from scratch using C++20 and Metal-cpp (targeting macOS and visionOS). My primary goal is to build a zero-bottleneck, GPU-driven pipeline that maximizes the potential of Apple Silicon’s Unified Memory and TBDR architecture. While the fundamental systems are stable, I am looking for architectural feedback from Metal framework engineers regarding specific synchronization and latency challenges. Current Core Implementations: GPU-Driven Instance Culling: High-performance occlusion culling using a Hierarchical Z-Buffer (HZB) approach via Compute Shaders. Clustered Forward Shading: Support for high-count dynamic lights through view-space clustering. Temporal Stability: Custom TAA with history rejection and Motion Blur resolve. Asset Infrastructure: Robust GUID-based scene serialization and a JSON-driven ECS hierarchy. The Architectural Challenge: I am currently seeing slight synchronization overhead when generating the HZB mip-chain. On Apple Silicon, I am evaluating the cost of encoder transitions versus cache-friendly barriers. && m_hzbInitPipeline && m_hzbDownsamplePipeline && !m_hzbMipViews.empty(); if (canBuildHzb) { MTL::ComputeCommandEncoder* hzbInit = commandBuffer->computeCommandEncoder(); hzbInit->setComputePipelineState(m_hzbInitPipeline); hzbInit->setTexture(m_depthTexture, 0); hzbInit->setTexture(m_hzbMipViews[0], 1); if (m_pointClampSampler) { hzbInit->setSamplerState(m_pointClampSampler, 0); } else if (m_linearClampSampler) { hzbInit->setSamplerState(m_linearClampSampler, 0); } const uint32_t hzbWidth = m_hzbMipViews[0]->width(); const uint32_t hzbHeight = m_hzbMipViews[0]->height(); const uint32_t threads = 8; MTL::Size tgSize = MTL::Size(threads, threads, 1); MTL::Size gridSize = MTL::Size((hzbWidth + threads - 1) / threads * threads, (hzbHeight + threads - 1) / threads * threads, 1); hzbInit->dispatchThreads(gridSize, tgSize); hzbInit->endEncoding(); for (size_t mip = 1; mip < m_hzbMipViews.size(); ++mip) { MTL::Texture* src = m_hzbMipViews[mip - 1]; MTL::Texture* dst = m_hzbMipViews[mip]; if (!src || !dst) { continue; } MTL::ComputeCommandEncoder* downEncoder = commandBuffer->computeCommandEncoder(); downEncoder->setComputePipelineState(m_hzbDownsamplePipeline); downEncoder->setTexture(src, 0); downEncoder->setTexture(dst, 1); const uint32_t mipWidth = dst->width(); const uint32_t mipHeight = dst->height(); MTL::Size downGrid = MTL::Size((mipWidth + threads - 1) / threads * threads, (mipHeight + threads - 1) / threads * threads, 1); downEncoder->dispatchThreads(downGrid, tgSize); downEncoder->endEncoding(); } if (m_instanceCullHzbPipeline) { dispatchInstanceCulling(m_instanceCullHzbPipeline, true); } } My Questions: Encoder Synchronization: Would you recommend moving this loop into a single ComputeCommandEncoder using MTLBarrier between dispatches to maintain L2 cache residency, or is the overhead of separate encoders negligible for depth-downsampling on TBDR? visionOS Bindless Latency: For stereo rendering on visionOS, what are the best practices for managing MTL4ArgumentTable updates at 90Hz+? I want to ensure that updating bindless resources for each eye doesn't introduce unnecessary CPU-to-GPU latency. Memory Management: Are there specific hints for Memoryless textures that could be applied to intermediate HZB levels to save bandwidth during this process? I’ve attached a screenshot of a scene rendered with the engine (PBR, SSR, and IBL).
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Open Shading Language (OSL) in Metal
Hi. I'm a 3D designer, using Blender for most of my work. The most recent Blender conference discussed utilizing the Open Shading Language (OSL) in their latest versions, which allows designers to write custom shaders for their workflows. At the moment, only Nvidia Optix GPU's can utilize this language for rendering (from what I understand), but Blender developers stated they are waiting on other GPU manufacturers to implement this feature as well. I'm not sure if there are any licensing issues here, but would this be something Apple could implement in Metal to make their hardware more attractive to the 3D design community? Any help or knowledge on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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The description of set_indices in the MSL reference seems incorrect.
I'm currently learning Metal. While reading the reference, I came across a strange description. Page 78 in Version 4 Reference (2025-10-25) says: It is legal to call the following set_indices functions to set the indices if the position in the index buffer is valid and if the position in the index buffer is a multiple of 2 (uchar2 overload) or 2 (uchar4 overload). The index I needs to be in the range [0, max_indices). void set_indices(uint I, uchar2 v); void set_indices(uint I, uchar4 v); However, it seems that the uchar4 overload should be multiple of 4. Furthermore, there is no explanation of what these methods actually do. I believe it involves setting two to four consecutive indices at once, but there is no mention of that here. I would like to know if the above understanding is correct.
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Xcode Metal Capture crash when using MTLSamplerState
The sample code just draw a triangle and sample texture. both sample code can draw a correct triangle and sample texture as expected. there are no error message from terminal. Sample code using constexpr Sampler can capture and replay well. Sample code using a argumentTable to bind a MTLSamplerState was crashed when using Metal capture and replay on Xcode. Here are sample codes. Sample Code Test Environment: M1 Pro MacOS 26.3 (25D125) Xcode Version 26.2 (17C52) Feedback ID: FB22031701
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Using Metal compute for scientific simulation (lattice QCD gauge theory)
I've been using Metal compute shaders for lattice quantum chromodynamics simulations and wanted to share the experience in case others are doing scientific computing on Metal. The workload involves SU(2) matrix operations on 4D lattice grids — lots of 2x2 and 3x3 complex matrix multiplies, reductions over lattice sites, and nearest-neighbor stencil operations. The implementation bridges a C++ scientific framework (Grid) to Metal via Objective-C++ .mm files, with MSL kernels compiled into .metallib archives during the build. Things that work well: Shared memory on M-series eliminates the CPU↔GPU copy overhead that dominates in CUDA workflows The .metallib compilation integrates cleanly with autotools builds using xcrun Float4 packing for SU(2) matrices maps naturally to MSL vector types Things I'm still figuring out: Optimal threadgroup sizes for stencil operations on 4D grids Whether to use MTLHeap for gauge field storage or stick with individual buffers Best practices for double precision — some measurements need float64 but Metal's double support varies by hardware The application is measuring chromofield flux distributions between static quarks, ultimately targeting multi-quark systems. Production runs are on MacBook Pro M-series and Mac Studio. Code: https://github.com/ThinkOffApp/multiquark-lattice-qcd
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Can a compute pipeline be as efficient as a render pipeline for rasterization?
I'm new to graphics and game design and I just wanted to know if a compute pipeline could be as efficient as a render pipeline for rasterization and an explanation on how and why. Also is it possible to manually perform rasterization with a render pipeline as in manipulate individual pixel data in a metal texture yourself but do it with a render pipeline?
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Can I use metal shader if I use RealityKit to build a VisionOS app?
I asked AI to build a realistic ocean shader for a VisionOS project using RealityKit. It gave a bunch instructions and asked me to connect large amount of nodes for the ShaderGraph in the Reality Composer Pro. I am just wondering if AI can help to generate the Metal shader code directly, or build the ShaderGraph nodes for me automatically.
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GPTK 3 and D3DMetal issue with Modern Pipeline Creation
Death Stranding 2: On the Beach (v1.0.48.0, Steam) crashes during rendering initialization when running through CrossOver 26 with D3DMetal 3.0 on an Apple M2 Max Mac Studio running macOS Sequoia. The game successfully initializes Streamline, NVAPI, DLSS (Result::eOk), DLSSG (Result::eOk), Reflex, and XeSS — all subsystems report success. The crash occurs immediately after, during rendering pipeline creation, before the game reaches NXStorage initialization or window creation. Minidump analysis confirms the crash is an access violation (0xc0000005) at DS2.exe+0x67233d, writing to address 0x0. RAX=0x0 (null pointer being dereferenced), R12=0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF (error/invalid handle return). The game appears to call a D3D12 API — likely CheckFeatureSupport or a pipeline state creation function — that D3DMetal acknowledges as supported but returns null or invalid data for. The game trusts the response and dereferences the null pointer. Two other Nixxes titles using the same engine and D3DMetal setup run without issue: Spider-Man 2 (~50 FPS) and Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered (~34 FPS). DS2 uses newer technology versions (DLSS 4, FSR 4, XeSS 2) and a newer DirectX 12 Agility SDK, which likely queries D3D12 features that D3DMetal does not yet fully implement. The crash also reproduces when D3DMetal reports as AMD vendor (1002) instead of NVIDIA (10de), crashing at the same executable offset, confirming it is a D3D12 feature reporting gap in D3DMetal rather than a vendor-specific issue. How To Reproduce Install Crossover 26+ on MacOS 26.4 Install Steam and download Death Stranding 2 Run Death Stranding 2 and check logs after crash in Documents\DEATH STRANDING 2 ON THE BEACH Feedback Requests FB22285513 — Game Porting Toolkit 3 issue with Modern Pipeline Creation
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Xcode26 Replay frame broken
Got a broken frame when using Xcode to capture a frame and replay it from a Unity game. It seems like the vertex buffer is broken; I see a bunch of "nan"s in the vertex buffer. However, the game displays correct when running, and it only happend when I upgrade my Xcode and iphone to Xcode26 and IOS26 ios26
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