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Reply to Concerns About Rule 4.3 Spam Restriction - Enlightenment Needed
>and also similar design >because as a great part of features will be shared between the apps, we will reuse great (or at least some) of the codeIf app review sniffs out seemingly templated apps in your case, I think your primary concern should be with 4.2.6, instead. 4.3 kicks in when you have more than a few apps...have you a number, yet?Perhaps the best approach is for each client to have their own dev account, and their own unique app. Only app review knows how they will react otherwise.
Dec ’17
Concerns About Rule 4.3 Spam Restriction - Enlightenment Needed
Hello,We’re struggling ourselves with the 4.3 Rule Spam restriction, and we need your guide to know how to proceed without breaking the Apple Rules.Well, our company develop homecare softwares, monitoring health by an app, where user can save and view its historic of health recordings, such as glucose, blood pressure, oximetry and others. Actually we have one app at store, Glico, which registers glucose, meals, medicines and physical activity.The problem is, that we have some contracts to develop new apps, for different companies. They’ll have similar purpose, and also similar design, but their icons, colors, and also some parts of the design will be different between them. As well, they will have some same features, and some others different.Our doubt lies in if and how we can do this without breaking the Apple Rules (in this case, 4.3 Rule Spam restriction, about similar apps), because as a great part of features will be shared between the apps, we will reuse great (or at least some) of th
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What is the policy on multiple apps for different cities?
I have apps that are travel guides and maps for various cities. I just updated them and some got approved but others got rejected with this message:We noticed that your app provides the same feature set as other apps submitted to the App Store; it simply varies in content or language, which is considered a form of spam.In 4.3 Spam in https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#spam it saysIf your app has different versions for specific locations, sports teams, universities, etc., consider submitting a single app and provide the variations using in-app purchase.It says consider not that it's absolutely required. I did consider it and thought it better to have multiple apps because 1) discovery, I can't put the keywords for all the cities in one app and 2) better user experience to have all the data in the initial app download than require seperate downloads from a server.What is the exact policy on this? It seems that many developers are able to have multiple apps with the same functional
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Reply to Varying levels of promo codes based on referral?
Wouldn't that run afoul of the 4.3 guideline everyone (who makes cookie cutter apps) is complaining about, regarding spamming the store with almost-identical apps?IAP promo codes do exist and do work. I'm not sure that would help the situation much though. Apple really doesn't seem to encourage arbitrarily charging different people different prices for the same product.
Dec ’17
Reply to 4.3 Design Guidelines - Apple please reconsider how this is enforced.
I would try appealing the app rejection notice. Have you tried that yet? Explain the situation, and let them know that you deleted the other apps. Hopefully they allow that one in.The guidelines are very unclear. 4.3 Design - Spam has to do with not creating similar apps, but they also can delete apps they deem as low quality or a saturated category. It's a very broad spectrum, guideline, and it seems to only judge developers on a case by case basis. There doesn't seem to be any clear, black and white rules regarding the guideline. It's at the discretion of the reviewer's subjective opinion on the app submission.We've encountered both scenarios with our apps, and heard other stories from other developers too.I also believe that this guideline is a very slippery slope for Apple. How many developers that supported Apple by purchasing products will cease doing so? How many customers of legitimate developers, snagged by this new guideline, will drive consumers to other platforms, and in turn, other devic
Nov ’17
Reply to 4.3 Design Guidelines - Apple please reconsider how this is enforced.
Masatoshi,You said in one of your ealier posts thatI also removed ALL OF MY LAW APPS from sale, including the previous version app.I got 4.3 rejection AGAIN this morning.Yet, you were somehow able to get through the review process and get approved later. What exactly did you do differently next time around? Did you remove ALL your apps from sale and then went through the approval again?I got the following rejectionDesign 4.3Thank you for your resubmission. However upon further review we continue to find that your photo taking apps are very similar. We understand that these apps are not exactly the same. However, apps that provide the same or similar feature set is not appropriate for the App Store.I removed all of my photography apps except for one. Submitted that for review and I still got the same Design 4.3 rejection. So that did you do different in your case? Whatelse did you end up removing? I have no idea whatelse they want me to do? I have no photography app left after removing all. I
Nov ’17
Reply to Having Multiple Similar Apps
Guys, if you have enough resources there's still another way: you could create separate account for each of your apps (would work fine for white label and similar business models).I've tried that way and also got 4.3 rejection, so our aim now is to figure out how apple's review algorithms find identical or similar apps and how we could pass through it. We should find a way to confuse/obfuscate code and app's structure, so the bot can't identify copies.If there's no fair review, we should find our own way to make it fair. I understand that this method would help those who just spam on AppStore, but at least that'll attract apple's attention to our problem and problem in its algorithm
Nov ’17
Reply to 4.3 Design Guidelines - Apple please reconsider how this is enforced.
Guys, if you have enough resources there's still another way: you could create separate account for each of your apps (would work fine for white label and similar business models). As i have said above, I've tried that way and also got 4.3 rejection, so our aim now is to figure out how apple's review algorithms find identical or similar apps and how we could pass through it. We should find a way to confuse/obfuscate code and app's structure, so the bot can't identify copies.If there's no fair review, we should find our own way to make it fair. I understand that this method would help those who just spam on AppStore, but at least that'll attract apple's attention to our problem and problem in its algorithm
Nov ’17
Reply to 4.3 Design Guidelines - Apple please reconsider how this is enforced.
Thanks a lot, I'll try your suggestion with bitcode and metadata (I don't use admob etc.).Do you have any more tricks to share?My experience: After couples of attemps to make apple approve my app, I've tried to create a new separate dev account for one of my apps, and I again got 4.3 and message saying identical apps.So my question is, how apple bot spots identical or simular apps and what could we do to pass thro this algorythm, at least on a separate account. If fair review doesn't work, we should at least find a workaround...
Nov ’17
Reply to 4.3 Design Guidelines - Apple please reconsider how this is enforced.
Apple reviewers are just taking the 4.3 guideline out of context these days.Your Church app(s) is a perfect example of how this guideline fails.Main thing is the searchability. Each country, each state, each city probably has multiple churches, one person who goes to, say, Michigan state , Midland Pentecostal Church would probably simply search michigan church on the app store.But if all church apps in the country is under one app he / she will get no search results since the developer just can't fit all the states in the keywords...
Nov ’17
Reply to Concerns About Rule 4.3 Spam Restriction - Enlightenment Needed
I had a similar issue, and it took a lot of email, phone calls and appeals to finally have Apple understand the apps I'm developing. The reviewers are over zealous in their quest to enforce rule 4.3 and are doing more harm than good. I felt it was a huge waste of time and energy.
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Reply to Concerns About Rule 4.3 Spam Restriction - Enlightenment Needed
>and also similar design >because as a great part of features will be shared between the apps, we will reuse great (or at least some) of the codeIf app review sniffs out seemingly templated apps in your case, I think your primary concern should be with 4.2.6, instead. 4.3 kicks in when you have more than a few apps...have you a number, yet?Perhaps the best approach is for each client to have their own dev account, and their own unique app. Only app review knows how they will react otherwise.
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Concerns About Rule 4.3 Spam Restriction - Enlightenment Needed
Hello,We’re struggling ourselves with the 4.3 Rule Spam restriction, and we need your guide to know how to proceed without breaking the Apple Rules.Well, our company develop homecare softwares, monitoring health by an app, where user can save and view its historic of health recordings, such as glucose, blood pressure, oximetry and others. Actually we have one app at store, Glico, which registers glucose, meals, medicines and physical activity.The problem is, that we have some contracts to develop new apps, for different companies. They’ll have similar purpose, and also similar design, but their icons, colors, and also some parts of the design will be different between them. As well, they will have some same features, and some others different.Our doubt lies in if and how we can do this without breaking the Apple Rules (in this case, 4.3 Rule Spam restriction, about similar apps), because as a great part of features will be shared between the apps, we will reuse great (or at least some) of th
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Reply to What is the policy on multiple apps for different cities?
One of the developer that you listed - eTips - has hundreds of similar apps in the app store and one of their app update was approved 1 week ago.Same thing with the other one. Ulmon had an app updated a month ago.Wow apple, great job in being consistent with 4.3 spam guideline. Talk about complete selective punishment.
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Dec ’17
What is the policy on multiple apps for different cities?
I have apps that are travel guides and maps for various cities. I just updated them and some got approved but others got rejected with this message:We noticed that your app provides the same feature set as other apps submitted to the App Store; it simply varies in content or language, which is considered a form of spam.In 4.3 Spam in https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#spam it saysIf your app has different versions for specific locations, sports teams, universities, etc., consider submitting a single app and provide the variations using in-app purchase.It says consider not that it's absolutely required. I did consider it and thought it better to have multiple apps because 1) discovery, I can't put the keywords for all the cities in one app and 2) better user experience to have all the data in the initial app download than require seperate downloads from a server.What is the exact policy on this? It seems that many developers are able to have multiple apps with the same functional
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Reply to Varying levels of promo codes based on referral?
Re: 4.3. They let you launch a few similar apps before shutting you down. Do you know that promo codes work for IAPs? There were a lot of complaints when they were first 'released'.
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Reply to Varying levels of promo codes based on referral?
Wouldn't that run afoul of the 4.3 guideline everyone (who makes cookie cutter apps) is complaining about, regarding spamming the store with almost-identical apps?IAP promo codes do exist and do work. I'm not sure that would help the situation much though. Apple really doesn't seem to encourage arbitrarily charging different people different prices for the same product.
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Dec ’17
Reply to Same code for multiple apps
Read the very long posts on 'spamming the app store' and rejections under 'guideline 4.3' on these forums. I think what you are proposing is mentioned as a solution to the 4.3 rejections.
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Nov ’17
Reply to 4.3 Design Guidelines - Apple please reconsider how this is enforced.
I would try appealing the app rejection notice. Have you tried that yet? Explain the situation, and let them know that you deleted the other apps. Hopefully they allow that one in.The guidelines are very unclear. 4.3 Design - Spam has to do with not creating similar apps, but they also can delete apps they deem as low quality or a saturated category. It's a very broad spectrum, guideline, and it seems to only judge developers on a case by case basis. There doesn't seem to be any clear, black and white rules regarding the guideline. It's at the discretion of the reviewer's subjective opinion on the app submission.We've encountered both scenarios with our apps, and heard other stories from other developers too.I also believe that this guideline is a very slippery slope for Apple. How many developers that supported Apple by purchasing products will cease doing so? How many customers of legitimate developers, snagged by this new guideline, will drive consumers to other platforms, and in turn, other devic
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Nov ’17
Reply to Can we get approval for differently skinned apps
>The copycat section seems the most relevant.Seems not.From your comment, tho., it appears you've heard the recent chatter about which guideline is more likely to apply. Search here on: 4.3
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Reply to 4.3 Design Guidelines - Apple please reconsider how this is enforced.
Masatoshi,You said in one of your ealier posts thatI also removed ALL OF MY LAW APPS from sale, including the previous version app.I got 4.3 rejection AGAIN this morning.Yet, you were somehow able to get through the review process and get approved later. What exactly did you do differently next time around? Did you remove ALL your apps from sale and then went through the approval again?I got the following rejectionDesign 4.3Thank you for your resubmission. However upon further review we continue to find that your photo taking apps are very similar. We understand that these apps are not exactly the same. However, apps that provide the same or similar feature set is not appropriate for the App Store.I removed all of my photography apps except for one. Submitted that for review and I still got the same Design 4.3 rejection. So that did you do different in your case? Whatelse did you end up removing? I have no idea whatelse they want me to do? I have no photography app left after removing all. I
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Nov ’17
Reply to Having Multiple Similar Apps
Guys, if you have enough resources there's still another way: you could create separate account for each of your apps (would work fine for white label and similar business models).I've tried that way and also got 4.3 rejection, so our aim now is to figure out how apple's review algorithms find identical or similar apps and how we could pass through it. We should find a way to confuse/obfuscate code and app's structure, so the bot can't identify copies.If there's no fair review, we should find our own way to make it fair. I understand that this method would help those who just spam on AppStore, but at least that'll attract apple's attention to our problem and problem in its algorithm
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Nov ’17
Reply to 4.3 Design Guidelines - Apple please reconsider how this is enforced.
Guys, if you have enough resources there's still another way: you could create separate account for each of your apps (would work fine for white label and similar business models). As i have said above, I've tried that way and also got 4.3 rejection, so our aim now is to figure out how apple's review algorithms find identical or similar apps and how we could pass through it. We should find a way to confuse/obfuscate code and app's structure, so the bot can't identify copies.If there's no fair review, we should find our own way to make it fair. I understand that this method would help those who just spam on AppStore, but at least that'll attract apple's attention to our problem and problem in its algorithm
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Nov ’17
Reply to 4.3 Design Guidelines - Apple please reconsider how this is enforced.
Thanks a lot, I'll try your suggestion with bitcode and metadata (I don't use admob etc.).Do you have any more tricks to share?My experience: After couples of attemps to make apple approve my app, I've tried to create a new separate dev account for one of my apps, and I again got 4.3 and message saying identical apps.So my question is, how apple bot spots identical or simular apps and what could we do to pass thro this algorythm, at least on a separate account. If fair review doesn't work, we should at least find a workaround...
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Nov ’17
Reply to 4.3 Design Guidelines - Apple please reconsider how this is enforced.
Apple reviewers are just taking the 4.3 guideline out of context these days.Your Church app(s) is a perfect example of how this guideline fails.Main thing is the searchability. Each country, each state, each city probably has multiple churches, one person who goes to, say, Michigan state , Midland Pentecostal Church would probably simply search michigan church on the app store.But if all church apps in the country is under one app he / she will get no search results since the developer just can't fit all the states in the keywords...
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