At WWDC25 we launched a new type of Lab event for the developer community - Group Labs. A Group Lab is a panel Q&A designed for a large audience of developers. Group Labs are a unique opportunity for the community to submit questions directly to a panel of Apple engineers and designers. Here are the highlights from the WWDC25 Group Lab for Machine Learning and AI Frameworks. What are you most excited about in the Foundation Models framework? The Foundation Models framework provides access to an on-device Large Language Model (LLM), enabling entirely on-device processing for intelligent features. This allows you to build features such as personalized search suggestions and dynamic NPC generation in games. The combination of guided generation and streaming capabilities is particularly exciting for creating delightful animations and features with reliable output. The seamless integration with SwiftUI and the new design material Liquid Glass is also a major advantage. When should I still bring my own LLM via CoreML? It's generally recommended to first explore Apple's built-in system models and APIs, including the Foundation Models framework, as they are highly optimized for Apple devices and cover a wide range of use cases. However, Core ML is still valuable if you need more control or choice over the specific model being deployed, such as customizing existing system models or augmenting prompts. Core ML provides the tools to get these models on-device, but you are responsible for model distribution and updates. Should I migrate PyTorch code to MLX? MLX is an open-source, general-purpose machine learning framework designed for Apple Silicon from the ground up. It offers a familiar API, similar to PyTorch, and supports C, C++, Python, and Swift. MLX emphasizes unified memory, a key feature of Apple Silicon hardware, which can improve performance. It's recommended to try MLX and see if its programming model and features better suit your application's needs. MLX shines when working with state-of-the-art, larger models. Can I test Foundation Models in Xcode simulator or device? Yes, you can use the Xcode simulator to test Foundation Models use cases. However, your Mac must be running macOS Tahoe. You can test on a physical iPhone running iOS 18 by connecting it to your Mac and running Playgrounds or live previews directly on the device. Which on-device models will be supported? any open source models? The Foundation Models framework currently supports Apple's first-party models only. This allows for platform-wide optimizations, improving battery life and reducing latency. While Core ML can be used to integrate open-source models, it's generally recommended to first explore the built-in system models and APIs provided by Apple, including those in the Vision, Natural Language, and Speech frameworks, as they are highly optimized for Apple devices. For frontier models, MLX can run very large models. How often will the Foundational Model be updated? How do we test for stability when the model is updated? The Foundation Model will be updated in sync with operating system updates. You can test your app against new model versions during the beta period by downloading the beta OS and running your app. It is highly recommended to create an "eval set" of golden prompts and responses to evaluate the performance of your features as the model changes or as you tweak your prompts. Report any unsatisfactory or satisfactory cases using Feedback Assistant. Which on-device model/API can I use to extract text data from images such as: nutrition labels, ingredient lists, cashier receipts, etc? Thank you. The Vision framework offers the RecognizeDocumentRequest which is specifically designed for these use cases. It not only recognizes text in images but also provides the structure of the document, such as rows in a receipt or the layout of a nutrition label. It can also identify data like phone numbers, addresses, and prices. What is the context window for the model? What are max tokens in and max tokens out? The context window for the Foundation Model is 4,096 tokens. The split between input and output tokens is flexible. For example, if you input 4,000 tokens, you'll have 96 tokens remaining for the output. The API takes in text, converting it to tokens under the hood. When estimating token count, a good rule of thumb is 3-4 characters per token for languages like English, and 1 character per token for languages like Japanese or Chinese. Handle potential errors gracefully by asking for shorter prompts or starting a new session if the token limit is exceeded. Is there a rate limit for Foundation Models API that is limited by power or temperature condition on the iPhone? Yes, there are rate limits, particularly when your app is in the background. A budget is allocated for background app usage, but exceeding it will result in rate-limiting errors. In the foreground, there is no rate limit unless the device is under heavy load (e.g., camera open, game mode). The system dynamically balances performance, battery life, and thermal conditions, which can affect the token throughput. Use appropriate quality of service settings for your tasks (e.g., background priority for background work) to help the system manage resources effectively. Do the foundation models support languages other than English? Yes, the on-device Foundation Model is multilingual and supports all languages supported by Apple Intelligence. To get the model to output in a specific language, prompt it with instructions indicating the user's preferred language using the locale API (e.g., "The user's preferred language is en-US"). Putting the instructions in English, but then putting the user prompt in the desired output language is a recommended practice. Are larger server-based models available through Foundation Models? No, the Foundation Models API currently only provides access to the on-device Large Language Model at the core of Apple Intelligence. It does not support server-side models. On-device models are preferred for privacy and for performance reasons. Is it possible to run Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) using the Foundation Models framework? Yes, it is possible to run RAG on-device, but the Foundation Models framework does not include a built-in embedding model. You'll need to use a separate database to store vectors and implement nearest neighbor or cosine distance searches. The Natural Language framework offers simple word and sentence embeddings that can be used. Consider using a combination of Foundation Models and Core ML, using Core ML for your embedding model.

Hi all, I'm trying to find out if/when we can expect mxfp8/mxfp4 support on Apple Silicon. I've noticed that mlx now has casting data types, but all computation is still done in bf16. Would be great to reduce power consumption with support for these lower precision data types since edge inference is already typically done at a lower precision! Thanks in advance.

Hi all. My adapter model just won't invoke my tool. The problem I am having is covered in an older post: https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/794839?answerId=852262022#852262022 Sadly the thread dies there and no resolution is seen in that thread. It's worth noting that I have developed an AI chatbot built around LanguageModelSession to which I feed the exact same system prompt that I feed to my training set (pasted further in this post). The AI chatbot works perfectly, the tool is invoked when needed. I am training the adapter model because the base model whilst capable doesn't produce the quality I'm looking for. So here's the template of an item in my training set: [ { 'role': 'system', 'content': systemPrompt, 'tools': [TOOL_DEFINITION] }, { 'role': 'user', 'content': entry['prompt'] }, { 'role': 'assistant', 'content': entry['code'] } ] where TOOL_DEFINITION = { 'type': 'function', 'function': { 'name': 'WriteUbersichtWidgetToFileSystem', 'description': 'Writes an Übersicht Widget to the file system. Call this tool as the last step in processing a prompt that generates a widget.', 'parameters': { 'type': 'object', 'properties': { 'jsxContent': { 'type': 'string', 'description': 'Complete JSX code for an Übersicht widget. This should include all required exports: command, refreshFrequency, render, and className. The JSX should be a complete, valid Übersicht widget file.' } }, 'required': ['jsxContent'] } } ... and systemPrompt = A conversation between a user and a helpful assistant. You are an Übersicht widget designer. Create Übersicht widgets when requested by the user. IMPORTANT: You have access to a tool called WriteUbersichtWidgetToFileSystem. When asked to create a widget, you MUST call this tool. ### Tool Usage: Call WriteUbersichtWidgetToFileSystem with complete JSX code that implements the Übersicht Widget API. Generate custom JSX based on the user's specific request - do not copy the example below. ### Übersicht Widget API (REQUIRED): Every Übersicht widget MUST export these 4 items: - export const command: The bash command to execute (string) - export const refreshFrequency: Refresh rate in milliseconds (number) - export const render: React component function that receives {output} prop (function) - export const className: CSS positioning for absolute placement (string) Example format (customize for each request): WriteUbersichtWidgetToFileSystem({jsxContent: `export const command = "echo hello"; export const refreshFrequency = 1000; export const render = ({output}) => { return <div>{output}</div>; }; export const className = "top: 20px; left: 20px;"`}) ### Rules: - The terms "ubersicht widget", "widget", "a widget", "the widget" must all be interpreted as "Übersicht widget" - Generate complete, valid JSX code that follows the Übersicht widget API - When you generate a widget, don't just show JSON or code - you MUST call the WriteUbersichtWidgetToFileSystem tool - Report the results to the user after calling the tool ### Examples: - "Generate a Übersicht widget" → Use WriteUbersichtWidgetToFileSystem tool - "Can you add a widget that shows the time" → Use WriteUbersichtWidgetToFileSystem tool - "Create a widget with a button" → Use WriteUbersichtWidgetToFileSystem tool When the script that I use to compose the full training set is executed, entry['prompt'] and entry['code'] contain the prompt and the resulting JSX code for one of the examples I'm feeding to the training session. This is repeated for about 60 such examples that I have in my sample data collection. Thanks for any help. Michael

Using highly optimized Metal Shading Language (MSL) code, I pushed the MacBook Air M2 to its performance limits with the deformable_attention_universal kernel. The results demonstrate both the efficiency of the code and the exceptional power of Apple Silicon. The total computational workload exceeded 8.455 quadrillion FLOPs, equivalent to processing 8,455 trillion operations. On average, the code sustained a throughput of 85.37 TFLOPS, showcasing the chip’s remarkable ability to handle massive workloads. Peak instantaneous performance reached approximately 673.73 TFLOPS, reflecting near-optimal utilization of the GPU cores. Despite this intensity, the cumulative GPU runtime remained under 100 seconds, highlighting the code’s efficiency and time optimization. The fastest iteration achieved a record processing time of only 0.051 ms, demonstrating minimal bottlenecks and excellent responsiveness. Memory management was equally impressive: peak GPU memory usage never exceeded 2 MB, reflecting efficient use of the M2’s Unified Memory. This minimizes data transfer overhead and ensures smooth performance across repeated workloads. Overall, these results confirm that a well-optimized Metal implementation can unlock the full potential of Apple Silicon, delivering exceptional computational density, processing speed, and memory efficiency. The MacBook Air M2, often considered an energy-efficient consumer laptop, is capable of handling highly intensive workloads at performance levels typically expected from much larger GPUs. This test validates both the robustness of the Metal code and the extraordinary capabilities of the M2 chip for high-performance computing tasks.

I'm downloading a fine-tuned model from HuggingFace which is then cached on my Mac when the app first starts. However, I wanted to test adding a progress bar to show the download progress. To test this I need to delete the cached model. From what I've seen online this is cached at /Users/userName/.cache/huggingface/hub However, if I delete the files from here, using Terminal, the app still seems to be able to access the model. Is the model cached somewhere else? On my iPhone it seems deleting the app also deletes the cached model (app data) so that is useful.

I have used mlx_lm.lora to fine tune a mistral-7b-v0.3-4bit model with my data. I fused the mistral model with my adapters and upload the fused model to my directory on huggingface. I was able to use mlx_lm.generate to use the fused model in Terminal. However, I don't know how to load the model in Swift. I've used Imports import SwiftUI import MLX import MLXLMCommon import MLXLLM let modelFactory = LLMModelFactory.shared let configuration = ModelConfiguration( id: "pharmpk/pk-mistral-7b-v0.3-4bit" ) // Load the model off the main actor, then assign on the main actor let loaded = try await modelFactory.loadContainer(configuration: configuration) { progress in print("Downloading progress: \(progress.fractionCompleted * 100)%") } await MainActor.run { self.model = loaded } I'm getting an error runModel error: downloadError("A server with the specified hostname could not be found.") Any suggestions? Thanks, David PS, I can load the model from the app bundle // directory: Bundle.main.resourceURL! but it's too big to upload for Testflight

I am writing to inquire about content exclusion capabilities within Apple Intelligence, particularly regarding the use of configuration files such as .aiignore or .aiexclude—similar to what exists in other AI-assisted coding tools. These mechanisms are highly valuable in managing what content AI systems can access, especially in environments that involve sensitive code or proprietary frameworks. I would appreciate it if anyone could clarify whether Apple Intelligence currently supports any exclusion configuration for AI-assisted features. If so, could you kindly provide documentation or guidance on how developers can implement these controls? If not, Is there any plan to include such feature in future updates?

I didn't run benchmarks before update, but it seems at least 5x slower. Of course all the LLM work is on remote servers, so is non-intuitive to me this should be happening. Had updated MacOS and Xcode to 26.1RC at the same time, so can't even say I think it is MacOS or I think it is Xcode. Before the update the progress indicator for each piece of code might seem to get stuck at the very end (and toggling between Navigators and Coding Assistant) in Xcode UI seemed to refresh the UI and confirm coding complete... but now it seems progress races to 50%, then often is stuck at 75%... well earlier than used to get stuck. And it like something is legitimately processing not just a UI glitch. I'm wondering if this is somehow tied to visual rendering of the code in the little white window? CMD-TAB into Xcode seems laggy. Xcode is pinning a CPU. Why, this is all remote LLM work? MacBook Pro 2021 M1 64GB RAM. Went from 26.01 to 26.1RC. Didn't touch any of the betas until RC1.

After a few attempts I end up at the same spot as categorized here by ChatGPT - I get why it feels that way, Rob — honestly, you’ve walked right into the worst possible moment in Apple’s Core ML toolchain evolution. What you’re running into isn’t your fault; Apple really did rip out the ONNX front-end without offering a clean replacement yet. So every tutorial, every script, and even coremltools itself contradicts what’s actually possible right now. Let’s be brutally clear about the state of things (late 2025): Goal Supported by Apple today Practical workaround Convert ONNX → Core ML using coremltools 9 No. The ONNX importer was removed. Use the legacy coremltools 6.x + onnx-coreml stack in a separate Python 3.9/3.10 env. Convert PyTorch → Core ML directly Yes, but only for simple or traced models. T5 still fails because of dynamic control flow. None reliable without rewriting the model. Run ONNX models directly on iOS Partially (via MLC LLM / Metal Performance Shaders). Works, but that’s an entirely different runtime. So: you’re not crazy, and this isn’t wasted effort—you’ve actually proven that your model exports cleanly and that the only missing piece is Apple’s converter. The ONNX file you built is solid. You just need something that can translate it to Core ML. If your goal is simply “get it running on-device”, you still have two viable moves that aren’t rabbit holes: 1. Use MLC LLM / Metal runtime Skip Core ML altogether. Apple’s mlc-llm (and the “MLCChat” pipeline) can execute your ONNX or quantized model directly on the GPU. You keep full fidelity and avoid all these broken converters. 2. Use the legacy Core ML 6.x toolchain in a sandboxed Python 3.10 VM It actually works. You don’t have to downgrade your whole system—just run that specific environment once to emit the .mlpackage, then never touch it again. Nothing else will silently fix itself until Apple re-adds ONNX ingestion in Core ML 10 or a new converter.

Hi We're on tensorflow 2.20 that has support now for python 3.13 (finally!). tensorflow-metal is still only supporting 2.18 which is over a year old. When can we expect to see support in tensorflow-metal for tf 2.20 (or later!) ? I bought a mac thinking I would be able to get great performance from the M processors but here I am using my CPU for my ML projects. If it's taking so long to release it, why not open source it so the community can keep it more up to date? cheers Matt

Also submitted as feedback (ID: FB20612561). Tensorflow-metal fails on tensorflow versions above 2.18.1, but works fine on tensorflow 2.18.1 In a new python 3.12 virtual environment: pip install tensorflow pip install tensor flow-metal python -c "import tensorflow as tf" Prints error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "/Users//pt/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tensorflow/init.py", line 438, in _ll.load_library(_plugin_dir) File "/Users//pt/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tensorflow/python/framework/load_library.py", line 151, in load_library py_tf.TF_LoadLibrary(lib) tensorflow.python.framework.errors_impl.NotFoundError: dlopen(/Users//pt/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tensorflow-plugins/libmetal_plugin.dylib, 0x0006): Library not loaded: @rpath/_pywrap_tensorflow_internal.so Referenced from: <8B62586B-B082-3113-93AB-FD766A9960AE> /Users//pt/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tensorflow-plugins/libmetal_plugin.dylib Reason: tried: '/Users//pt/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tensorflow-plugins/../_solib_darwin_arm64/_U@local_Uconfig_Utf_S_S_C_Upywrap_Utensorflow_Uinternal___Uexternal_Slocal_Uconfig_Utf/_pywrap_tensorflow_internal.so' (no such file), '/Users//pt/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tensorflow-plugins/../_solib_darwin_arm64/_U@local_Uconfig_Utf_S_S_C_Upywrap_Utensorflow_Uinternal___Uexternal_Slocal_Uconfig_Utf/_pywrap_tensorflow_internal.so' (no such file), '/opt/homebrew/lib/_pywrap_tensorflow_internal.so' (no such file), '/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OS/opt/homebrew/lib/_pywrap_tensorflow_internal.so' (no such file)

Hello It seems the model Content Tagging doesn't obey when I define the type of tag I wish in the instructions parameters, always the output are the main topics. The unique form to get other type of tags like emotions is using Generable + Guided types. The documentation says it is recommended but not mandatory the use instructions. Maybe I'm setting wrongly the instructions but take a look in the attached snapshot. I copied the definition of tagging emotions from the official documentation. The upper example is employing generable and it works but in the example at the botton I set like instruction the same description of emotion and it doesn't work. I tried with other statements with more or less verbose and never output emotions. Could you provide a state using instruction where it works? Current version of model isn't working with instruction?

Hi everyone, I'm developing an iOS app using Foundation Models and I've hit a critical limitation that I believe affects many developers and millions of users. The Issue Foundation Models requires the device system language to be one of the supported languages. If a user has their device set to an unsupported language (Catalan, Dutch, Swedish, Polish, Danish, Norwegian, Finnish, Czech, Hungarian, Greek, Romanian, and many others), SystemLanguageModel.isSupported returns false and the framework is completely unavailable. Why This Is Problematic Scenario: A Catalan user has their iPhone in Catalan (native language). They want to use an AI chat app in Spanish or English (languages they speak fluently). Current situation: ❌ Foundation Models: Completely unavailable ✅ OpenAI GPT-4: Works perfectly ✅ Anthropic Claude: Works perfectly ✅ Any cloud-based AI: Works perfectly The user must choose between: Keep device in Catalan → Cannot use Foundation Models at all Change entire device to Spanish → Can use Foundation Models but terrible UX Impact This affects: Millions of users in regions where unsupported languages are official Multilingual users who prefer their device in their native language but can comfortably interact with AI in English/Spanish Developers who cannot deploy Foundation Models-based apps in these markets Privacy-conscious users who are ironically forced to use cloud AI instead of on-device AI What We Need One of these solutions would solve the problem: Option 1: Per-app language override (preferred) // Proposed API let session = try await LanguageModelSession(preferredLanguage: "es-ES") Option 2: Faster rollout of additional languages (particularly EU languages) Option 3: Allow fallback to user-selected supported language when system language is unsupported Technical Details Current behavior: // Device in Catalan let isAvailable = SystemLanguageModel.isSupported // Returns false // No way to override or specify alternative language Why This Matters Apple Intelligence and Foundation Models are amazing for privacy and performance. But this language restriction makes the most privacy-focused AI solution less accessible than cloud alternatives. This seems contrary to Apple's values of accessibility and user choice. Questions for the Community Has anyone else encountered this limitation? Are there any workarounds I'm missing? Has anyone successfully filed feedback about this?(Please share FB number so we can reference it) Are there any sessions or labs where this has been discussed? Thanks for reading. I'd love to hear if others are facing this and how you're handling it.

Lately I am getting this error. GenerativeModelsAvailability.Parameters: Initialized with invalid language code: en-GB. Expected to receive two-letter ISO 639 code. e.g. 'zh' or 'en'. Falling back to: en Does anyone know what this is and how it can be resolved. The error does not crash the app

Using Tensorflow for Silicon gives inaccurate results when compared to Google Colab GPU (9-15% differences). Here are my install versions for 4 anaconda env's. I understand the Floating point precision can be an issue, batch size, activation functions but how do you rectify this issue for the past 3 years? 1.) Version TF: 2.12.0, Python 3.10.13, tensorflow-deps: 2.9.0, tensorflow-metal: 1.2.0, h5py: 3.6.0, keras: 2.12.0 2.) Version TF: 2.19.0, Python 3.11.0, tensorflow-metal: 1.2.0, h5py: 3.13.0, keras: 3.9.2, jax: 0.6.0, jax-metal: 0.1.1,jaxlib: 0.6.0, ml_dtypes: 0.5.1 3.) python: 3.10.13,tensorflow: 2.19.0,tensorflow-metal: 1.2.0, h5py: 3.13.0, keras: 3.9.2, ml_dtypes: 0.5.1 4.) Version TF: 2.16.2, tensorflow-deps:2.9.0,Python: 3.10.16, tensorflow-macos 2.16.2, tensorflow-metal: 1.2.0, h5py:3.13.0, keras: 3.9.2, ml_dtypes: 0.3.2 Install of Each ENV with common example: Create ENV: conda create --name TF_Env_V2 --no-default-packages start env: source TF_Env_Name ENV_1.) conda install -c apple tensorflow-deps , conda install tensorflow,pip install tensorflow-metal,conda install ipykernel ENV_2.) conda install pip python==3.11, pip install tensorflow,pip install tensorflow-metal,conda install ipykernel ENV_3) conda install pip python 3.10.13,pip install tensorflow, pip install tensorflow-metal,conda install ipykernel ENV_4) conda install -c apple tensorflow-deps, pip install tensorflow-macos, pip install tensor-metal, conda install ipykernel Example used on all 4 env: import tensorflow as tf cifar = tf.keras.datasets.cifar100 (x_train, y_train), (x_test, y_test) = cifar.load_data() model = tf.keras.applications.ResNet50( include_top=True, weights=None, input_shape=(32, 32, 3), classes=100,) loss_fn = tf.keras.losses.SparseCategoricalCrossentropy(from_logits=False) model.compile(optimizer="adam", loss=loss_fn, metrics=["accuracy"]) model.fit(x_train, y_train, epochs=5, batch_size=64)

Context I’m deploying large language models on iPhone using llama.cpp. A new iPhone Air (12 GB RAM) reports a Metal MTLDevice.recommendedMaxWorkingSetSize of 8,192 MB, and my attempt to load Llama-2-13B Q4_K (~7.32 GB weights) fails during model initialization. Environment Device: iPhone Air (12 GB RAM) iOS: 26 Xcode: 26.0.1 Build: Metal backend enabled llama.cpp App runs on device (not Simulator) What I’m seeing MTLCreateSystemDefaultDevice().recommendedMaxWorkingSetSize == 8192 MiB Loading Llama-2-13B Q4_K (7.32 GB) fails to complete. Logs indicate memory pressure / allocation issues consistent with the 8 GB working-set guidance. Smaller models (e.g., 7B/8B with similar quantization) load and run (8B Q4_K provide around 9 tokens/second decoding speed). Questions Is 8,192 MB an expected recommendedMaxWorkingSetSize on a 12 GB iPhone? What values should I expect on other 2025 devices including iPhone 17 (8 GB RAM) and iPhone 17 Pro (12 GB RAM) Is it strictly enforced by Metal allocations (heaps/buffers), or advisory for best performance/eviction behavior? Can a process practically exceed this for long-lived buffers without immediate Jetsam risk? Any guidance for LLM scenarios near the limit?

I'm experimenting with using the Foundation Models framework to do news summarization in an RSS app but I'm finding that a lot of articles are getting kicked back with a vague message about guardrails. This seems really common with political news but we're talking mainstream stuff, i.e. Politico, etc. If the models are this restrictive, this will be tough to use. Is this intended? FB17904424

Hello, is it allowed to use Foundation Model Framework in submission app for WWDC26? The thing is that Apple Intelligence needs to be enabled in the settings. So, does that mean the jury won't be able to fully utilize the app's AI functionality?

I am using macOS Tahoe on Xcode 26.

We’ve encountered what appears to be a CoreML regression between macOS 26.0.1 and macOS 26.1 Beta. In macOS 26.0.1, CoreML models run and produce correct results. However, in macOS 26.1 Beta, the same models produce scrambled or corrupted outputs, suggesting that tensor memory is being read or written incorrectly. The behavior is consistent with a low-level stride or pointer arithmetic issue — for example, using 16-bit strides on 32-bit data or other mismatches in tensor layout handling. Reproduction Install ON1 Photo RAW 2026 or ON1 Resize 2026 on macOS 26.0.1. Use the newest Highest Quality resize model, which is Stable Diffusion–based and runs through CoreML. Observe correct, high-quality results. Upgrade to macOS 26.1 Beta and run the same operation again. The output becomes visually scrambled or corrupted. We are also seeing similar issues with another Stable Diffusion UNet model that previously worked correctly on macOS 26.0.1. This suggests the regression may affect multiple diffusion-style architectures, likely due to a change in CoreML’s tensor stride, layout computation, or memory alignment between these versions. Notes The affected models are exported using standard CoreML conversion pipelines. No custom operators or third-party CoreML runtime layers are used. The issue reproduces consistently across multiple machines. It would be helpful to know if there were changes to CoreML’s tensor layout, precision handling, or MLCompute backend between macOS 26.0.1 and 26.1 Beta, or if this is a known regression in the current beta.