I am running some experiments with WebGPU using the wgpu crate in rust. I have some Buffers already allocated in the GPU. Is it possible to use those already existing buffers directly as inputs to a predict call in CoreML? I want to prevent gpu to cpu download time as much as possible. Or are there any other ways to do something like this. Is this only possible using the latest Tensor object which came out with Metal 4 ?

Hello, I am currently working on a research project under ENINCA Consulting, focused on advanced diagnostic tools for pseudorandom number generators (structural metrics, multi-seed stability, cross-architecture reproducibility, and complementary indicators to TestU01). To validate this diagnostic framework, I prototyped a small non-linear 64-bit PRNG (not as a goal in itself, but simply as a vehicle to test the methodology). During these evaluations, I observed something interesting on Apple Silicon (Mac M1): • bit-exact reproducibility between M1 ARM CPU and M1 Metal GPU, • full BigCrush pass on both CPU and Metal backends, • excellent p-values, • stable behaviour across multiple seeds and runs. This was not the intended objective, the goal was mainly to validate the diagnostic concepts, but these results raised some questions about deterministic compute behaviour in Metal. My question: Is there any official guidance on achieving (or expecting) deterministic RNG or compute behaviour across CPU ↔ Metal GPU on Apple Silicon? More specifically: • Are deterministic compute kernels expected or guaranteed on Metal for scientific workloads? • Are there recommended patterns or best practices to ensure reproducibility across GPU generations (M1 → M2 → M3 → M4)? • Are there known Metal features that can introduce non-determinism? I am not sharing the internal recurrence (this work is proprietary), but I can discuss the high-level diagnostic observations if helpful. Thank you for any insight, very interested in how the Metal engineering team views deterministic compute patterns on Apple Silicon. Pascal ENINCA Consulting

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We’ve encountered what appears to be a CoreML regression between macOS 26.0.1 and macOS 26.1 Beta. In macOS 26.0.1, CoreML models run and produce correct results. However, in macOS 26.1 Beta, the same models produce scrambled or corrupted outputs, suggesting that tensor memory is being read or written incorrectly. The behavior is consistent with a low-level stride or pointer arithmetic issue — for example, using 16-bit strides on 32-bit data or other mismatches in tensor layout handling. Reproduction Install ON1 Photo RAW 2026 or ON1 Resize 2026 on macOS 26.0.1. Use the newest Highest Quality resize model, which is Stable Diffusion–based and runs through CoreML. Observe correct, high-quality results. Upgrade to macOS 26.1 Beta and run the same operation again. The output becomes visually scrambled or corrupted. We are also seeing similar issues with another Stable Diffusion UNet model that previously worked correctly on macOS 26.0.1. This suggests the regression may affect multiple diffusion-style architectures, likely due to a change in CoreML’s tensor stride, layout computation, or memory alignment between these versions. Notes The affected models are exported using standard CoreML conversion pipelines. No custom operators or third-party CoreML runtime layers are used. The issue reproduces consistently across multiple machines. It would be helpful to know if there were changes to CoreML’s tensor layout, precision handling, or MLCompute backend between macOS 26.0.1 and 26.1 Beta, or if this is a known regression in the current beta.

Hello All, I’m a mobile-app developer working with iOS 26+ and I’m using BGContinuedProcessingTask to perform background work. My app’s workflow includes the following business logic: Loading images via PHImageRequest. Using a CLIP model to extract image embeddings. Using an .mlmodel-based model to further process those embeddings. For both model inferences I set computeUnits = .cpuAndNeuralEngine. When the app is moved to the background, I observe that the same workload(all three workload) becomes on average 4-5× slower than when the app is in the foreground. In an attempt to diagnose the slowdown, I tried to profile with Xcode Instruments, but since a debugger was attached, the performance in background appeared nearly identical to foreground. Even when I detached the debugger, the measured system resource metrics (process CPU usage, system CPU usage, memory, QoS class, thermal state) showed no meaningful difference. Below are some of the metrics I captured: Process CPU: 177% (Foreground) → 153% (Background) → ~-24.1% Still >1.5 cores of work. System CPU: 56.1% → 38.4% → ~-17.7% Process Memory: 244.8 MB → 218.1 MB QoS Class: userInitiated in both cases Thermal State: nominal in both cases Given these results, I’m finding it hard to pinpoint why the overall latency is so much worse when the app is backgrounded, even though the obvious metrics show little variation. I suspect the cause may involve P-core vs E-core scheduling, or internal hardware throttling/limit of Neural Engine usage, but I cannot find clear documentation or logging to confirm this. My question is: Does anyone know why a CPU (and Neural Engine)-intensive job like this would slow down so dramatically when using BGContinuedProcessingTask in the background on iOS 26+, despite apparent similar resource-usage metrics? Are there internal iOS scheduling/hardware-allocation behaviors (e.g., falling back to lower-performing cores when backgrounded) that might explain this? Any pointers to Apple technical notes, system logs, or instrumentation I might use to detect which cores or compute units are being used would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and any guidance you can provide. Best regards,

Hello, is it allowed to use Foundation Model Framework in submission app for WWDC26? The thing is that Apple Intelligence needs to be enabled in the settings. So, does that mean the jury won't be able to fully utilize the app's AI functionality?

Hi everyone Im currently developing an object detection model that shall identify up to seven classes in an image. While im usually doing development with basic python and the ultralytics library, i thought i would like to give CreateML a shot. The experience is actually very nice, except for the fact that the model seem not to be using any ANE or GPU (MPS) for accelerated training. On https://developer.apple.com/machine-learning/create-ml/ it states: "On-device training Train models blazingly fast right on your Mac while taking advantage of CPU and GPU." Am I doing something wrong? Im running the training on Apple M1 Pro 16GB MacOS 26.1 (Tahoe) Xcode 26.1 (Build version 17B55) It would be super nice to get some feedback or instructions. Thank you in advance!

Using Tensorflow for Silicon gives inaccurate results when compared to Google Colab GPU (9-15% differences). Here are my install versions for 4 anaconda env's. I understand the Floating point precision can be an issue, batch size, activation functions but how do you rectify this issue for the past 3 years? 1.) Version TF: 2.12.0, Python 3.10.13, tensorflow-deps: 2.9.0, tensorflow-metal: 1.2.0, h5py: 3.6.0, keras: 2.12.0 2.) Version TF: 2.19.0, Python 3.11.0, tensorflow-metal: 1.2.0, h5py: 3.13.0, keras: 3.9.2, jax: 0.6.0, jax-metal: 0.1.1,jaxlib: 0.6.0, ml_dtypes: 0.5.1 3.) python: 3.10.13,tensorflow: 2.19.0,tensorflow-metal: 1.2.0, h5py: 3.13.0, keras: 3.9.2, ml_dtypes: 0.5.1 4.) Version TF: 2.16.2, tensorflow-deps:2.9.0,Python: 3.10.16, tensorflow-macos 2.16.2, tensorflow-metal: 1.2.0, h5py:3.13.0, keras: 3.9.2, ml_dtypes: 0.3.2 Install of Each ENV with common example: Create ENV: conda create --name TF_Env_V2 --no-default-packages start env: source TF_Env_Name ENV_1.) conda install -c apple tensorflow-deps , conda install tensorflow,pip install tensorflow-metal,conda install ipykernel ENV_2.) conda install pip python==3.11, pip install tensorflow,pip install tensorflow-metal,conda install ipykernel ENV_3) conda install pip python 3.10.13,pip install tensorflow, pip install tensorflow-metal,conda install ipykernel ENV_4) conda install -c apple tensorflow-deps, pip install tensorflow-macos, pip install tensor-metal, conda install ipykernel Example used on all 4 env: import tensorflow as tf cifar = tf.keras.datasets.cifar100 (x_train, y_train), (x_test, y_test) = cifar.load_data() model = tf.keras.applications.ResNet50( include_top=True, weights=None, input_shape=(32, 32, 3), classes=100,) loss_fn = tf.keras.losses.SparseCategoricalCrossentropy(from_logits=False) model.compile(optimizer="adam", loss=loss_fn, metrics=["accuracy"]) model.fit(x_train, y_train, epochs=5, batch_size=64)

Context I’m deploying large language models on iPhone using llama.cpp. A new iPhone Air (12 GB RAM) reports a Metal MTLDevice.recommendedMaxWorkingSetSize of 8,192 MB, and my attempt to load Llama-2-13B Q4_K (~7.32 GB weights) fails during model initialization. Environment Device: iPhone Air (12 GB RAM) iOS: 26 Xcode: 26.0.1 Build: Metal backend enabled llama.cpp App runs on device (not Simulator) What I’m seeing MTLCreateSystemDefaultDevice().recommendedMaxWorkingSetSize == 8192 MiB Loading Llama-2-13B Q4_K (7.32 GB) fails to complete. Logs indicate memory pressure / allocation issues consistent with the 8 GB working-set guidance. Smaller models (e.g., 7B/8B with similar quantization) load and run (8B Q4_K provide around 9 tokens/second decoding speed). Questions Is 8,192 MB an expected recommendedMaxWorkingSetSize on a 12 GB iPhone? What values should I expect on other 2025 devices including iPhone 17 (8 GB RAM) and iPhone 17 Pro (12 GB RAM) Is it strictly enforced by Metal allocations (heaps/buffers), or advisory for best performance/eviction behavior? Can a process practically exceed this for long-lived buffers without immediate Jetsam risk? Any guidance for LLM scenarios near the limit?

Does anyone know if ExecuTorch is officially supported or has been successfully used on visionOS? If so, are there any specific build instructions, example projects, or potential issues (like sandboxing or memory limitations) to be aware of when integrating it into an Xcode project for the Vision Pro? While ExecuTorch has support for iOS, I can't find any official documentation or community examples specifically mentioning visionOS. Thanks.

WWDC25: Combine Metal 4 machine learning and graphics Demonstrated a way to combine neural network in the graphics pipeline directly through the shaders, using an example of Texture Compression. However there is no mention of using which ML technique texture is compressed. Can anyone point me to some well known model/s for this particular use case shown in WWDC25.

From tensorflow-metal example: Created TensorFlow device (/job:localhost/replica:0/task:0/device:GPU:0 with 0 MB memory) -> physical PluggableDevice (device: 0, name: METAL, pci bus id: ) I know that Apple silicon uses UMA, and that memory copies are typical of CUDA, but wouldn't the GPU memory still be faster overall? I have an iMac Pro with a Radeon Pro Vega 64 16 GB GPU and an Intel iMac with a Radeon Pro 5700 8 GB GPU. But using tensorflow-metal is still WAY faster than using the CPUs. Thanks for that. I am surprised the 5700 is twice as fast as the Vega though.

I'm developing a tennis ball tracking feature using Vision Framework in Swift, specifically utilizing VNDetectedObjectObservation and VNTrackObjectRequest. Occasionally (but not always), I receive the following runtime error: Failed to perform SequenceRequest: Error Domain=com.apple.Vision Code=9 "Internal error: unexpected tracked object bounding box size" UserInfo={NSLocalizedDescription=Internal error: unexpected tracked object bounding box size} From my investigation, I suspect the issue arises when the bounding box from the initial observation (VNDetectedObjectObservation) is too small. However, Apple's documentation doesn't clearly define the minimum bounding box size that's considered valid by VNTrackObjectRequest. Could someone clarify: What is the minimum acceptable bounding box width and height (normalized) that Vision Framework's VNTrackObjectRequest expects? Is there any recommended practice or official guidance for bounding box size validation before creating a tracking request? This information would be extremely helpful to reliably avoid this internal error. Thank you!

I followed below url for converting Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct model but always fails even i have 64GB of free space after downloading model from huggingface. https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/core-ml-on-device-llama Also tried with other models Llama-3.1-1B-Instruct & Llama-3.1-3B-Instruct models those are converted but while doing performance test in xcode fails for all compunits. Is there any source code to run llama models in ios app.

I got 3203.23 GFLOPS (FP16) on the M3 Macbook Pro and only 2833.24 GFLOPS (FP16) on the M4 Macbook Air for 4096x4096 matrix multiplications for a PyTorch MPS FP16 Benchmark. Wasn't the performance supposed to be twice as high on the M4 compared to the M3 even with the termal throtling on the Macbook Air? What went wrong?

In my quantization code, the line: compressed_model_a8 = cto.coreml.experimental.linear_quantize_activations( model, activation_config, [{'img':np.random.randn(1,13,1024,1024)}] ) has taken 90 minutes to run so far and is still not completed. From debugging, I can see that the line it's stuck on is line 261 in _model_debugger.py: model = ct.models.MLModel( cloned_spec, weights_dir=self.weights_dir, compute_units=compute_units, skip_model_load=False, # Don't skip model load as we need model prediction to get activations range. ) Is this expected behaviour? Would it be quicker to run on another computer with more RAM?

Hello, I posted an issue on the coremltools GitHub about my Core ML models not performing as well on iOS 17 vs iOS 16 but I'm posting it here just in case. TL;DR The same model on the same device/chip performs far slower (doesn't use the Neural Engine) on iOS 17 compared to iOS 16. Longer description The following screenshots show the performance of the same model (a PyTorch computer vision model) on an iPhone SE 3rd gen and iPhone 13 Pro (both use the A15 Bionic). iOS 16 - iPhone SE 3rd Gen (A15 Bioinc) iOS 16 uses the ANE and results in fast prediction, load and compilation times. iOS 17 - iPhone 13 Pro (A15 Bionic) iOS 17 doesn't seem to use the ANE, thus the prediction, load and compilation times are all slower. Code To Reproduce The following is my code I'm using to export my PyTorch vision model (using coremltools). I've used the same code for the past few months with sensational results on iOS 16. # Convert to Core ML using the Unified Conversion API coreml_model = ct.convert( model=traced_model, inputs=[image_input], outputs=[ct.TensorType(name="output")], classifier_config=ct.ClassifierConfig(class_names), convert_to="neuralnetwork", # compute_precision=ct.precision.FLOAT16, compute_units=ct.ComputeUnit.ALL ) System environment: Xcode version: 15.0 coremltools version: 7.0.0 OS (e.g. MacOS version or Linux type): Linux Ubuntu 20.04 (for exporting), macOS 13.6 (for testing on Xcode) Any other relevant version information (e.g. PyTorch or TensorFlow version): PyTorch 2.0 Additional context This happens across "neuralnetwork" and "mlprogram" type models, neither use the ANE on iOS 17 but both use the ANE on iOS 16 If anyone has a similar experience, I'd love to hear more. Otherwise, if I'm doing something wrong for the exporting of models for iOS 17+, please let me know. Thank you!

使用MPS来加速机器学习功能，有时是否与torch会有适配性问题？

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Based on the documentation, it appears that MLTensor can be used to perform tensor operations using the ANE (Apple Neural Engine) by wrapping the tensor operations with withMLTensorComputePolicy with a MLComputePolicy initialized with MLComputeUnits.cpuAndNeuralEngine (it can also be initialized with MLComputeUnits.all to let the OS spread the load between the Neural Engine, GPU and CPU). However, when using the Instruments app, it appears that the tensor operations never get executed on the Neural Engine. It would be helpful if someone can guide me on the correct way to ensure that the Nerual Engine is used to perform the tensor operations (not as part of a CoreML model file). based on this example, I've created a simple code to try it: import Foundation import CoreML print("Starting...") let semaphore = DispatchSemaphore(value: 0) Task { await withMLTensorComputePolicy(.init(MLComputeUnits.cpuAndNeuralEngine)) { let v1 = MLTensor([1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 4.0]) let v2 = MLTensor([5.0, 6.0, 7.0, 8.0]) let v3 = v1.matmul(v2) await v3.shapedArray(of: Float.self) // is 70.0 let m1 = MLTensor(shape: [2, 3], scalars: [ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ], scalarType: Float.self) let m2 = MLTensor(shape: [3, 2], scalars: [ 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 ], scalarType: Float.self) let m3 = m1.matmul(m2) let result = await m3.shapedArray(of: Float.self) // is [[58, 64], [139, 154]] // Supports broadcasting let m4 = MLTensor(randomNormal: [3, 1, 1, 4], scalarType: Float.self) let m5 = MLTensor(randomNormal: [4, 2], scalarType: Float.self) let m6 = m4.matmul(m5) print("Done") return result; } semaphore.signal() } semaphore.wait() Here's what I get on the Instruments app: Notice how the Neural Engine line shows no usage. Ive run this test on an M1 Max MacBook Pro.